Thursday, March 20, 2008

Exiern

I always thought there was a killing to be made in this whole transgender-fetish-webcomic business. I mean, this is the same community that keeps shitheaps like Misfile and The Wotch financially afloat. Hell, they were giving the latter more than a thousand dollars a month when it was down to updating once a week. These people have no fucking standards when giving out their money at all. Push the right buttons, update consistently, possess a level of artistic talent that outpaces its competitors (noting that this necessary level of talent can still technically be 'none'), and then market it all cynically and you have a webcomic so geared towards making money that you could have a blind retard run it and still make a profit.

Exiern, by one Drowemos, is that comic, and is run appropriately, as his ridiculous handle would suggest. Its premise is pretty standard: Barbarian hero of Liefeldian proportions infiltrates the fortress of an evil wizard to rescue a princess and is hit by a magic spell that turns him into a girl. Then they go off on some epic journey where there will undoubtedly be much humor relating to the barbarian's cluelessness, the wizard's wacky evil antics, and the parade of men unwittingly attracted to the changed woman! Pretty standard, as I said. There's even a shopping scene!

Now, you may have noticed that the art in this comic is a cut above its competitors in the TG-comic world, which isn't very hard when its competitors look like this and this. And I don't really care about any of its shortcomings because all that is completely fucking irrelevant in light of the fact that Exiern once looked like this, the first panel of which I will reproduce below.



How did this change in art happen? Was it because, God forbid, the creator put his balls to the wall and improved his way up? Nope. This is the comic a year later, the last panel of which I will reproduce below.



I'm not doing these reproducings for no reason, either, because what really happened was that he COMMISSIONED an internet art studio to take over the art of Exiern with an eye towards eventually replacing the archives of his comic with the new art. But really, the fact that a grown man thought that it was a good idea to show the artistic works above to anyone, much less the entire internet, is so ridiculous that he deserves to be laughed at in every circumstance and social stratum for that alone. I almost can't fault him for resorting to paying a stranger to make his pathetic magnum opus come to life. Almost.

I won't say anything to the artist or his inability to grasp the finer points of anatomy because I'm pretty sure he knows exactly what he is doing, and that is bringing the fantasies of pathetic Internet perverts to life for money. But hey, we all have to eat somehow. No, I'll just address Drowemos instead, because there is a possibility, however faint and contradictory to the apparent, that in the back of his mind somewhere persists the thought that he is creating entertainment, or even art, and he must be disabused of such a pathetic notion.

Drowemos, there's practically nothing in your comic that isn't a cliché of fantasy or transgender comics. There's nothing more telling of this fact than your ridiculously transparent self-insert, the Harry Potter lookalike (named Denver, of all fucking things!) who gets into a hulkrage over adventure books. He's naive, suicidally brave, has a background more ridden with fantasy clichés than Dominic Deegan (parents got killed by dragons, has a locket of his missing sister, finding other half of said locket is the device through which death of sister at the hands of monster is found out, fucking stop me when you've had enough), and is of course able to kiss the main character without being beaten to a pulp, which is in contradiction to the precedents set so one-dimensionally. It's an excellent move from a commercial standpoint though, as your self-insert can act as the self-inserts of your pathetic readers as well, and they'll end up throwing money at you to continue this tale where somebody just like them can win the heart of a man who has been turned into a woman against his will. But somehow I think that that is giving you too much credit. And the rest of the comic is excuse after excuse to show your lead in torn or missing clothes. Even the fucking monsters are not exempt from this. Not even the male monsters either, because they can be turned into female ones!

What you are doing isn't entertainment. It is gratification, appealing to the baser instincts and the simpler minds. In exaggeration I would call fiction of such ilk pornography, but in your case it is not an exaggeration in the slightest, because you have an honest-to-fucking-God MEMBERSHIP section where you show the unrated versions of the more borderline scenes and you proudly advertise this fact on every page that contains such scenes!

What insults can I throw at a man who is so brazen? Such a venture is hopeless from the start, because no insult could ever hurt as much as knowing what you have made and what it means. The realization that you can put all the tender loving care you want into your plot and characters and dialogue and this story you once wrote so earnestly that you sent it out to the world before mastering the motor control skills possessed by a toddler, and it won't matter a single goddamn bit because that is not what your audience comes for, and the audience that would care about such things will be repelled by what you are doing.

Jesus Christ (PBUH), you're so fucking incompetent that you have spelling errors in your tribute to fucking Gary Gygax, who must have been a god to your pale-skinned, fantasy-escapist kind! I'd hate to see you give an eulogy - you'd be constantly tripping over big words like 'happiness' and 'remember'.

Now I bet you're laughing all the way to the bank as you're reading this, because you've probably stopped caring about the actual content of this thing as this money-making setup you have really is foolproof. But know that the very personality traits that would lead you to thinking that it was a good idea to put out the original Exiern in the first place cripple you here, because webcomics, like any other business, require some modicum of social skill to succeed. You don't have to have much of it, because hey, webcomics. You don't have to not be an asshole, because there are few who know more about turning webcomics into money than Scott Kurtz. You don't even have to not be a narcissistic idiot, because even Tim Buckley manages. You just have to not be an autistic manchild with the mindset of a young teenager - the kind that whines about his own inability to read a business contract, some ridiculous bullshit about elitism, and something so fucking trivial it makes my brain hurt. (How fucking trivial you ask? Would you guess that it is about not getting linked from The Wotch yet? Then you are right!)

But even with all your failings it's not like I don't believe you'll achieve some level of financial success with your venture. On the contrary, I do, for I have faith. Faith in the stock that comprises your fanbase to be capable of patheticness and stupidity greater than any you could muster. Faith in their ability to plunge my faith in humankind into greater and greater depths. Faith in the universal axiom that that which appeals will sell, with no consideration of quality or worth.

So I can't really get angry at you or your comic, because you are inevitable. If not you, then someone else would have not only figured out this opportunity, like I have, but acted upon it as well. I just wish that whoever took that opportunity would have been a little less transparent, a little less whiny, and a little less pathetic than yourself.

And stop buying your shitty ads all over the fucking place. When I'm reading another bad webcomic I'd rather not be reminded of the existence of yours, thanks.

127 comments:

Anonymous said...

Never heard of this one before. How do you find things so bad?

Anonymous said...

A few of the links in the post aren't written properly, and are missing the "http://" part, so it tacks the intended url on the end of the blog url. Just letting you know.

Malethoth K. said...

And the girls have Liefeldian proportions, too!

At least his attempt at art was better than David Anez's shit, and his replacement was also slightly better (although I'm not sure if shitty comic book style wankery is better than shitty sprite comickry).

Pretty lame!

Malethoth K. said...

And Jesus Christ, Drowemos, how is it that you're the writer half of this shitfest and you can't write a paragraph without loading it with typos and grammatical errors? For God's sake, man! Learn to edit yourself, or get the artist to do it, or just go back and take eighth grade English again. I would say that this blatant disregard for the English languages tarnishes his reputation as a writer, but his reputation already consists entirely of a wankier Dominic Deegan so I GUESS NOT.

ironhill said...

I cannot comprehend someone reading more than one page of this comic. Why why why!!!

Wanker G. Spot said...

IN THE WORLD OF WEBCOMICS

NOBODY

STAYS THE SAME SEX

FOR LONG

WEBCOMICS: THE MOVIE

COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU

Wanker G. Spot said...

Also, Jesus Christ the son the father and the holy ghost that art in them thar panels you posted is not so good, eh?

Malethoth K. said...

I would see that movie Wanker. I would see it nine times.

Seriously the art that Drowemos drew himself is just vomit-inducingly bad.

Literally shuddering over here!

The Luigiian (Lupe) said...

Wanker G. Spot said...

IN THE WORLD OF WEBCOMICS

NOBODY

STAYS THE SAME SEX

FOR LONG

WEBCOMICS: THE MOVIE

COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU


I read this, intoned it, and laughed. Beautiful.

Was I the only one who read those lines (in the quote) and thought Wyoming Incident? G. Spot, you should put those on a black screen and have disembodied heads of Dominic Deegan, Ethan from CAD and the Exiern dude spinning around. Only you'd have to change the words a bit.

"WE ARE THE SHITTY"

"YOU WILL SEE SUCH TRANSGENDERED THINGS"

Etcetera.

The Luigiian said...

I'm sorry, that was a terrible idea.

"YOU WILL SEE SUCH SHITTY THINGS"

There you go.

Kurtz said...

How about double-checking the links in your post? Most of them don't work.

Your Rant is Bad and You Should Feel Bad

Ted David said...

Links should be fixed now.

Anonymous said...

(How fucking trivial you ask? Would you guess that it is about not getting linked from The Wotch yet? Then you are right!)

This link still doesn't work.

Ted David said...

Does now!

Namiya said...

IN THE WORLD OF WEBCOMICS

NOBODY

STAYS THE SAME SEX

FOR LONG

WEBCOMICS: THE MOVIE

COMING SOON TO A THEATER NEAR YOU


Hal Douglas would be proud, Wanker.

I've never read this webcomic. But if it is ANYTHING remotely similar to Douchini Deegan, then it is a scourge. No more, no less.

Anonymous said...

"New in the Members Area
R-Rated Peonie Pinup image
"

"* No ads
* Larger comics 800 by 1025px
* Uncensored versions of comic pages
* The scripts for the upcoming 6 comics
* A members only forum
* All the donation rewards free for download
* Access to the Exiern Encylopedia for indepth details about the world of Exiern.

Not bad for $9.50 the first month and $4.50 a month after that."

Christ that is disgusting. No quicker way to label yourself a sucker than to pay for dreck like this. Especially the "pay me $54 a year to see webcomic titties" aspect to it.

Wanker G. Spot said...

"indepth details about the world of Exiern"

Oh boy! I bet it's really original and well thought out, this world. I bet it doesn't rely on fantasy cliches one bit. I bet it's delicious, like wonderful-flavoured ice creams. Speaking of which, wait here whilst I go and get some.

Ramen said...

It's like an undead badger curled up and shat all over my monitor.

How do you put up with this Ted?

Anonymous said...

I was expecting this comic to show up here soon. If anything, it's not soon enough. The most annoying thing is how the creator whores his characters out for membership fees with nude scenes. Look, people, once you've seen a naked woman in real life, you really don't need look at naked cartoon women anymore.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else find this Transgender comic to be a bit homoerotic? After all the the self insert did kiss the post male blond character. And if I read the bio of Tiffany right, she used to be a ripped Conan type dude?

Shouldn't he have been repulsed by kissing a another man, like any normal straight guy would? Instead he seems to enjoy it.

You know what, Drowemos should just skip the unnecessary "growing romance" bullshit story and just have "Denver" take up ass from Barbie the Barbarian like the feminine bitch that he is.

At least, to us, it would seem that Drowemos is being fucked by his own cliché ridden character.

Anonymous said...

From the caption on page 9:

"So for the time being your are suck with the squishy middle of Exiern."

Something is suck all right...

Anonymous said...

The worst thing about the "pay me for uncensored tits" aspect is that he once wrote this lengthy, self-justifying rant about how he actually REALLY RESPECTS WOMEN and is only selling porntastic images of his characters because... he wants lots of money. One day, though, when he doesn't need the money (since he doesn't make his living off of Exiern, that would be "now"), he'll do a comic about women who are competent and not constantly objectified! He ends ot by comparing himself to Alfred Nobel.

The Wotch still don't link to him.

Tom said...
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Tom said...

Are you aware that Abstract Gender no longer has updates on account of having no artist, but instead has "scripts" posted on Deviant Art as substitute? Here's a sample (emphasis mine):

AG 247
Chapter 7

Panel 1 (row 1, left)
Rachel is in her anthro-wolf/dream form, still looking a little dazed. Fetch is looking up from a book.
Fetch: Ah, havn't seen you in a while. Doing well I hope.

Panel 2 (row 1, right)
Fetch looks into a file, looks like the files doctors use. Rachel is looking up towards him curiously.
Fetch: Let's see what we have here-- Oh my...

Panel 3 (row 2, left)
Fetch is looking at Rachel with a look that shows that he is at a complete loss of words, Rachel looks very confused.

Panel 4 (row 2, right)
Fetch rubs the back of his head, he is holding up a few fingers as he counts. Rachel is angry.
Fetch: And awake in 3. 2. 1--
Rachel: Stupid Dog!
Fetch: Good Luck!

Panel 5 (row 3, left)
A blurry view from the eyes of someone.
"Huh-- wha--?"

Panel 6 (row 3, middle)
Rachel sits up suddenly in desperation.
Rachel: I'm Ryan Hawke, male...

Panel 7 (row 3, right)
Rachel seems to be relaxing some, breathing a sigh of relief.
Rachel: Thank goodness. I appear to have been left the same...

Panel 8 (row 4, full row)
Travis is walking up, looking confused, but as hot as ever. it is now seen that Rachel is out on someone's lawn, apparently Travis' house. There are little things around Travis' which is normally shown as a sign of attraction. Little sparkles, something like that. Rachel looks to be in complete terror.
Travis: Rachel? Is that you? What are you doing out here?
Rachel: Oh god. NO!

That last sentence above echoes my sentiments exactly. You should also see the festivities that goes on in the comments section. You have to be really into the transgender fetish to masturbate to terrible transgender text porn.

Rune Traverse said...

Lifted from the rant on Wowio:

"that’s sort of funny because in the “shut up and stop whining” replies I got from the elites I did not see the word “please” or “thank you”. I did not receive the donation wallpaper or other reward. I saw no acknowledgment that they needed me. That I was providing a service. In a sense that I was superior to them since my comic would be the economic engine of Wowio where they would be draining the coffers with their comic."

I laughed so hard at this I nearly cried. Why, by the hell this turd spawned from, would anyone need to thank him for choosing to do business with a certain company? Their working relationship is with WOWIO - they have absolutely no say in where your "missing half-rate" is distributed, IF it even comes to them. For all you know, they paid it to the plumber after someone used Exiern for toilet paper and clogged the pipes with all those unwieldy wank-clichés. The other customers of WOWIO do not "need" you, you aren't "providing a service" to anyone - WOWIO is providing a service to you. The company decided to keep those who already had a business relationship at their current rate, whether as a reward for 'sticking with them' or to avoid arguments, etc. The company also made an effort to contact you - even though you obviously hadn't been paying attention to their website, in spite of the fact that your "business plan" supposedly revolves around them. They didn't have to do this, they chose to make sure you had the chance to get this rate, even though you didn't have a business relationship with them yet. So, as someone who has no relationship to WOWIO - suck up your own stupidity and shut the hell up already!

That said, this comic is annoying enough to make my eyes bleed. The first panels are so horrible I thought they were a joke, and the new art still doesn't excuse the fact that these are one-dimensional, stereo-typed idiots stuffed into 'dramatic adventures' for the sole purpose of fufilling fantasies. Anybody that charges massive amounts of money for things that should be available to readers ANYWAY (in-depth information on the comic's world) or simply fixed on the main comic page (larger comics, less or smaller ads) ought to be shot.

ASECRETFAGGOT said...

Mongol General: Hao! Dai ye! We won again! This is good, but what is best in life?
Mongol: The open steppe, fleet horse, falcons at your wrist, and the wind in your hair.
Mongol General: Wrong! Conan! What is best in life?
Conan: To appeal to the transgender fetish crowd, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their wallets.
Mongol General: That is good! That is good.

Ironman said...

That was some top notch work. Not only were the details of your attack spot on (particularly your 'less is more' approach to his older, horrible art - that stuff really did speak for itself); you went the extra mile and dug up a couple of blog postings, and a message board post.

The latter were the final nail in the coffin, confirming the the persona that you'd already inferred from the comic.

Kudos, and well done.

El Santo said...

I managed to, unfortunately, read this because Drowemos advertises on so many websites. The original artwork looks like it was done by a 12 year old. I have a hard time believing that the guy is a grown man in real life.

Anonymous said...

The comic is pornography, pure and simple. That part really is spot-on. The guy seems basically determined to take the world of Internet Transgender Comics by Storm. He's here to exploit a market niche - and, like any true businessman, he's even investing money to do it.

I don't believe for a second he has any delusions about what he is doing. He's not out to "show his vision to the world". No, I got his number. His bookshelf doesn't contain any guides to writing, it sure as hell doesn't contain any art books, but I'd bet real money that he's got a barely-skimmed copy of Economics 101. Find a niche, invest, exploit, and advertise.

Even him being a whiny bitch might not be an accident. Whiny bitches that cause drama generate attention. Extra attention gives his product more exposure. Whining about the Wotch isn't trivial to him. It's vital. The Wotch appeals to the same market, is the "Big Dog" of the "Man suddenly has boobs" world, and, if he can get a boost from them, his income goes up. It's like getting an ad on the Superbowl - as far as catching the eye of people who want Guy-Girl Comics goes.

I'm not sure he'll fail. He seems to be one of those people who makes up for a lack of talent, intelligence, or basic social skills through nothing than extremely straight-forward, but brutally aggressive business tactics. People like that often tend to succeed - some even despite borderline incompetence.

The worst part of this comic, though is how I found it.

He advertised on Gunnerkrigg Court. The ad, naturally, featured the non-shitty art, and few clues to the subject matter - so it was actually tempting to click on.

That, right there, is an aggressive marketing campaign.

Rune Traverse said...

He advertised on Gunnerkrigg Court.

I saw that ad! xD I remember clicking and reading the first couple, followed by "this sucks" and the death of the browser window.

I'm so tempted to put some sort of gender-switch thing in my own comic as a temporary spell / whatever, just to say "this is how it SHOULD be, morons!" No wanking allowed.

Anonymous said...

Rune,

Order of the Stick beat you to it.

Anonymous said...

Oh Jesus, I'd never thought of that scene with Roy Greenhilt as being somebody's wank material. This is the death of my innocence.

vorzer said...

With all that complaining, maybe he's thinking of the adage "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." I seem to recall a corollary, however, of "It also gets replaced."

Sadly, that's pretty hard to get done on the Internet.

As for the atrocious spelling/grammar/syntax apparently he's dyslexic. I wonder if the more recent pages have had better writing because people have been correcting him when he posts those half-dozen future scripts in the members-only section. But that would mean that the pay-thing works, which would only encourage him... such a vicious cycle.

Anonymous said...

Great article, Ted.

Anonymous said...

You can throw a stone without hitting a self-proclaimed dyslexic on the internet. It's an easy cover for the fact that many of these idiots are too lazy to proof-read, while embarrassed enough about it to claim the "I'm dyslexic so don't judge my writing!" defense.

Considering how he interpreted the entire Wowio as some sort of slam against him, not to mention The Wotch's failure to link to him as a personal affront, I have little doubt that Drowemos would claim dyslexia to cover his laziness.

tiberseptim said...

Anonymous has a point. I have a friend who never showers, yet attributes his personal stench to a "hormone imbalance".

But, assuming he's not even lying, DYSLEXIC WRITER? Think he should take on a blind artist for his comic? Or, seriously, maybe even a NON-dyslexic copy editor? Would go a long way towards making his writing, in and out of the comic, readable. Jesus Christ...

Anonymous said...

I wonder how gender-change fetishists got their jollies before the advent of webcomics. They don't seem to be the same group as transsexuals or even transvestites. So, what then--were there erotic comic books or erotic novels about people who get magically transformed into the opposite gender? If so, I've never heard of them. Or did these fetishists simply diddle themselves while fantasizing about how sexy it would be if it happened to them? Or did the webcomics come first and somehow convince a whole bunch of readers that it's hot when a guy suddenly loses his dick and grows boobs? I don't understand...but that may be for the best.

Anonymous said...

Re the dyslexia excuse for bad spelling and grammar in webcomics: Another, arguably better-known example is Jennie Breeden of The Devil's Panties. She has a long, foaming-at-the-mouth rant about spelling on her website. To summarize, it basically says (though not in these exact words), "DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE CRITISIZE MY BAD SPELING! I HAVE A FUCKING LERNING DISABILITY! A BLOO BLOO BLOO!" That alone turned me off her comic forever. Has it never occurred to her that she could easily have someone proofread her scripts before she letters and posts her comics? Look, I'm not one of those spelling Nazis who leaps at people's throat for the odd orthographical or typographical error. But writing, in any medium, that is chock-full of spelling and other English errors turns me off and discourages me from taking what the author has to say the least bit seriously, whether as argument or as art.

To repeat, if you won't, or can't, learn proper spelling, get someone who can to proofread. Don't flaunt your messy writing like a badge of honour.

Scyze said...

Guys--my friends. I give to you, the most terrible webcomic, and just... oh god. Words fail me. If you want to see something awful, this is it.

(Also, it was advertised through project wonderful on qwantz.com. I don't think I want to use project wonderful anymore. Seriously, what the fuck?)

http://www.drunkduck.com/SFA/index.php?p=361276

vorzer said...

Anonymous 19:31: The ancient Greeks and Romans had some kinky gender transformation myths, as well as other cultures. (I tried "transgender + myth," but it gave me Laura Seabrook and went downhill from there.)

Anonymous 19:43: I completely agree. It seems the majority (or at least the vocal majority) of webcomic-makers with some sort of disability don't care about the finished product, and don't go looking for ways to have their work meet the bare minimum of "polished" before they put it up for all to see. Despite, you know, supposedly having droves of devoted fans who would love a sneak peek at the next

They give the devoted creators a bad name. is colorblind, but he also asked for advice on his coloring before he got too far in the comic. As for why, his FAQ says he's not very bright. Who'd have thought, someone who can poke fun at himself?

scyze: I saw the cover art and thought "well, there is far worse art out there" but then I got to the comic pages. For a sex-driven, furry, longrunning comic with consistent art, that's probably up there. But there are of every genre out there. Personally, I find the unredeemable qualities (of an otherwise potentially decent product) tend to increase proportionally to the self-importance of the creator(s).

Anonymous said...

Jesus H Corbett. Some of them are furries...some of them are elves...some of them are furry elves...and they all have HUGE TITS. Hell, for the bodybuilder fetishists, we'll even throw in one with huge tits who lifts huge weights as well.

Oh, and an unfunny sexist gangsta cat, because dat iz so like kewl, and a mouse in shreddies waving a sign saying "I LYK BOOBZ".

Agreed, scyse, you've struck a real motherlode of shite here. Almost makes Magnificent Milkmaid look tolerable.

Rune Traverse said...

Scyse, I honestly hate you. I cannot unsee that pile of crap. Where do you people FIND this garbage?!? It's enough to make me physically ill.

Anonymous said...

"So when it was when," eh? Kinda catchy.

Anonymous said...

I actually read a few pages of this prior to Drowemos' recent campaign of buying advertising on good webcomics, so every time I saw one of those damn things it pissed me off both because it was selling a shitty comic, and was being deceptive about the nature of said shitty comic. You have no idea how gratifying it is to see this post.

Incidentally, what happened to the post on the terrible hard-right furry incest trainwreck comic?

Scyze said...

I'm sorry, Rune! Can you really blame me?

It was hosted on qwantz.com. It was nothing but cleavage. I HAD to click it. (WHY IS IT ON QWANTZ.COM, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW)

Franz Schubert said...

Incidentally, what happened to the post on the terrible hard-right furry incest trainwreck comic?

Dunno, but I know which comic you must mean: Better Days. I can't reach the actual site from my machine at the moment, but I can go to this review of it (well, more a left-winger's screed against the right than a review, but you'll get the idea).

Baron said...

i'm fairly certain that Single Female Alien thing is a joke

i mean every single page is labeled as a promo, bonus or teaser

Franz Schubert said...

If you haven't already looked at this horrible crock of crap, here's all you need to know: It contains badly drawn and horribly proportioned exaggerations of female bodies, vapid dialogue that makes frequent use of text bombs and ghetto-speak but rarely leads to a "punchline" as such, and (of course) a godlike self-insert of the artist.

Actually, those aren't just items the strip contains, but are in fact the strip's entire substance. It wants so badly to be "Shredded Moose" for furry wiggers, I don't see why the artist doesn't just move off DrunkDuck and make it outright X-rated like he obviously wants to.

Also: It's cute how the artist apparently thinks he's giving his characters actual personalities other than "vacuous slut," "knee-jerk misandrist," or a combination of the two.

Too tired to offer any further comment right now, except that the comic is somehow made even worse by the artist's relentless cheerful enthusiasm and belief that he's actually any good at what he does, or that he's doing the rest of the world some kind of favor by making this crap (see his strip's comments section).

Speaking of the comments section, does ANY strip on DrunkDuck actually get criticism or negative feedback in its comments section? Even from people who are just trolling?

Well, anyway, here's my own contribution to the "promotion" of bad webcomics: Widows' Revenge.

Rune Traverse said...

After that last shit, I'm not even touching the new links. It took reading most of the Order of the Stick archives to make the first one get out of my brain.

And to the Anon who said OotS beat me to decent gender-swapping - found it, read it, love it. I'm definitely sticking that comic to my checklist, it's funny as hell, especially to anyone who's ever played tabletop RPGs. ^^

el rallan said...

Incidentally, what happened to the post on the terrible hard-right furry incest trainwreck comic?

Hard-right furry incest trainwreck? Oh my. Tragically that link someone else gave to Better Days is a dud, so all I can offer is Kit N Kay Boodle, which is a furry incest trainwreck of a comic without the hard right. NSFW (badly drawn tits and cocks ahoy!). It's been four years since I risked my sanity and stared into the abyss of furry versions of the author and his girlfriend masturbating in front of her mother (in a wholesome, nurturing, loving way of course), and fuck you all if you expect me to delve back into that horrible brain-destroying shit to try and find selected highlights.

Peter said...

i, too, found that horrible giant furry boobs comic through qwantz. the banner ad was a pair of lizard tits which screamed "hilariously terrible" to me, and well, and what the hell, people! i clicked through about two links and that was really all i needed to see or read. i really hope its name isn't a nod toward super furry animals, that is a good band

of course, it could be a joke. let us pray that it is so, but i doubt somebody with the presence of mind to draw a comic making fun of furries would spend so long drawing that stuff, even just as traces from porno or whatever.

speaking of drunkduck and things that are actually jokes, in reply to schubert's question, "powerup comics" is the only one that i've seen get negative feedback, sometimes to a frighteningly obsessive degree from dd users (incidentally, it is the only funny drunkduck comic).

Peter said...

oh, and just because i hate everyone, here's a link to the worst shit i've ever read (yes, worse than kit n kay boodle): "the office bitch" at http://picklejuice.comicgenesis.com/

too bad better days is down, or we could have a truly rancid furry ol' time

Malethoth K. said...

Another poorly-drawn furry incest shitfest is Badly Drawn Kitties.

Anonymous said...

I love this blog. You can even call me a faggot for it, I don't care. Keep doing your best to light a candle in a world of horrid genderswitch and Gaijinimé.

That article about Better Days was a great read. Did anyone except me have Dolly Parton's "Harper Valley PTA" playing in their heads when Fisk's mum turned up in school in her revealing clothes?

The Office Bitch... good God. Looking at the page linked, and leaving out the utterly bland facial expressions... is the woman swallowing a used condom, or is that supposed to be her tongue? How does she squeeze her big wolf-paws into those narrow high-heeled shoes? Crack.

el rallan said...

Worse than Kit n Kay Boodle? I find that suspiciously hard to believe.What makes Kit n Kay stand out from the zillion and one other sordid furry fetish comics out there is how the constant cheerfulness and the way everything (including mother-daughter incest and characters surreptitiously masturbating while they watch their own blood relatives going at it) was portrayed as positive and healthy. And fuck it, let's just cut to the chase. Time to hit the Portal of Evil forums and find where the horrors started.

Ah here we are, back in 2003 (there's a bunch of creepy fucked up shit before that, but this is where Portal of Evil really struck gold). If memory serves me right, that orange guy (a lion? a retarded dog?) is the author's self-insertion character, the mouse is the writer's girlfriend, and the fat poodle bitch on the phone is his future mother-in-law.

Yes, he's on the phone awkwardly seducing his future mother-in-law with fantasies about her and her daughter, while her daughter is giving him a handjob. After that everyone gets naked and blushes a bit and talks about how wholesome and natural it is and "No, I'm implying the intense urgency of the mission! Mom must cum". Aaaand... yeah, it pretty much goes downhill from there, and from then until the present day it's ALL ABOARD THE INCEST TRAIN! WOOOOOOOO! And for the really adventurous, there's plenty of awesome (by which I mean awful) in the forums over the years which suggests that tickets for the incest train have been booked in real life.

I mean sure, The Office Bitch is a badly drawn furry TF webcomic with a fucking retarded font, a crossroads of retarded fetishes, and all the subtlety of a brick. Sure, it's got the shittiest artwork of the two comics (although that ain't saying much, since we're talking Shit and Shitter here). But Office Bitch's edge in craptastic art is hella offset by the fact that Kit N Kay Boodle is fucking broken.

Wanker G. Spot said...

SORDID

HE SAID SORDID

SOOOOOORDID

YEAH

SORDID SORDID

WE'VE GOT IT ALL SORDID OUT

Franz Schubert said...

*Bangs head against wall*

The only comic I've seen so far on DrunkDuck that provides actual amusement, and it's the only one that doesn't get the typical DD lovefest all over it.

The comment by "A Marie" under today's strip, though, might be the funniest thing I'll read all day. The third sentence is especially ironic coming from any registered DD user.

And in response to "The Office Bitch": ARGH MY EYES AND BRAIN WHY'D YOU MAKE ME READ THAT?! Multiply that response by 10^25 for "Kit 'N' Kay Boodle." I hope you're happy with yourselves for what you've done.

Anonymous said...

http://www.drunkduck.com/Powerup_Comics/index.php?p=367751

heyyy..... that's a picture of Virginia Polytechnic in the background!

Cho reference?!?

tehkou said...

And in response to "The Office Bitch": ARGH MY EYES AND BRAIN WHY'D YOU MAKE ME READ THAT?! Multiply that response by 10^25 for "Kit 'N' Kay Boodle." I hope you're happy with yourselves for what you've done.

Serves you right. Kit 'n' Kay Boodle is really the only recourse available after that... DrunkDuck... thing you linked to earlier in the thread. You opened the furry tit transgender Pandora's Box, and now you're paying the price.

Anonymous said...

also,
http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Incontinent_Student_Bodies

lol at furfags.

Franz Schubert said...

Cho reference?!?
Probably.

@ tehkou: LOL, I don't think I quite deserved THAT. I didn't even post the original link to SFA, scyze did. But since we've opened Pandora's Box here, I'll retaliate appropriately.

Rune Traverse said...

Good Gawd, what happened to the days when the comments had GOOD comics pointed out in them?!? I'd seen Kit n' Kaboodle before - some other 'bash the crappy webcomics' blog that dealt with just furries - but those other links, gah!!! I need to bleach my brain. That's not art, that's shit on the internet stick. How, how, HOW do these people get donations when good webcomics languish in oblivion?!?!

Ace ofspade said...

In the latest Zero Punctuation review, did anyone notice who Yahtzee was throwing darts at?

Scyze said...

guys I think my brain just broke

after a one two three punch after weakening from SFA

one the office bitch
two kit n kay boodle
three STALAG99

OH GOD IT BROKE ME

NOTHING MAKES SENSE ANYMORE

I seriously cannot comprehend how that kind of a thing is made
what the fuck guys

i've seen a lot of shit and kit n kay made me go ugh and oh god what the fuck

and now stalag99 how, how, how can someone even make that

my logic is officially broken, you assholes--i've quite literally zoned out into a state of helpless hopeless acceptance that nothing makes sense

help me

Anonymous said...

Rune traverse is right; we need more good webcomic recommendations. Finding bad--even really really bad--webcomics is like shooting fish in a barrel, and with an anti-aircraft gun at that.

So...currently I'm enjoying Little Dee by Chris Baldwin. If you like Calvin and Hobbes, you'll like this. The art is simple, clean and cartoony but well-executed. (It's the sort of strip that newspaper syndicates should carry in spades but don't, because today's syndicates seem only to welcome crappy art and lame, repetitive writing--that, and endless reruns of Peanuts or Bloom County.) Although a family-friendly, mostly light-hearted strip, there's a fair amount of clever snark and a sad undercurrent in the strip's premise that together give Little Dee more depth than the usual gag-a-day strip.

Other little-known webcomics I'd recommend are Nothing Better by Tyler Page and Sordid City Blues by Charles Snow. Both comics do something which is almost unheard of in online or offline graphic storytelling: they deal (in part) with religion in a way that's neither intolerantly fundamentalist (like Jack Chick tracts and other online evangelical comics) nor knee-jerk, simplistically anti-religious (too many examples to list. If I had a dollar for every webcomic or comic book that portrayed all clergy as corrupt hypocrites and/or child molesters, and God as either senile or a sadistic tyrant...but I digress). In other words, they deal (again, in part) with religion by assuming that their readers are intelligent adults who can think for themselves. That's a rare thing even in other media.

Malethoth K. said...

I recently read through Rice Boy, which I think is an excellently atmospheric and moody webcomic. It tells its story pretty slowly, but I think it's pretty organically drawn and has a nicely understated cast of characters. I don't actively keep up to date with it; I prefer to periodically absorb big chunks of new content.

Franz Schubert said...

In the latest Zero Punctuation review, did anyone notice who Yahtzee was throwing darts at?

LOL, yep.

Eh, since we're all thoroughly disgusted now with these comics about wanking over badly-drawn furry tits, I suppose I should do something to ease the pain. To that end, here's a short list of comics that don't fill me with hate when I read them, in fact I may even enjoy some of them:

Platinum Grit

Rice Boy

Gunnerkrigg Court

The Parking Lot is Full

Leisure Town

World's Worst Webcomic (despite the name, it's at least as funny as XKCD, except for the "Your Mom" jokes, which are funnier.)

Maliki (If you can read French, the humor is tiresomely banal, but its sheer cuteness overwhelms my otherwise cynical and jaded sensibilities. TL;DR: I am a huge fag.)

Perry Bible Fellowship

Jerkcity

Franz Schubert said...

And while I was writing that last one, someone already recommended Rice Boy. Nice.

Patrick said...

I don't know, I'm no longer a fan of Gunnerkrigg Court. It started out alright, cute, charming, but now it's trying to have Deep Plot or something and, uh, I'm just not liking it much.

It works better with pseudo-random, pseudo-nonsensical cuteness and adventures.

My recommendations are:

http://www.wondermark.com/index.html

http://www.uglyhill.com/index.html

http://www.starslip.com/

http://www.octopuspie.com/

Red Meat used to be okay, but has been sorta going downhill lately. Just read from the first strip up through the archives and you'll probably have a few laughs or smirks.

Baron said...

Pictures for Sad Children is so lonely and fun

Perfect Stars is bizarre and beautiful

Malethoth K. said...

Basically if someone from TaBB is associated with it
There's a pretty good chance it's quality
I mean obviously there are exceptions like Codak and CanCopCon
But still PRETTY GOOD ODDS

I cannot endorse Starslip Crisis too much, for the simple reason that Kris Straub is supposedly a professional Kurtz sycophant. And I guess the writing is pretty hokey.

Patrick said...

...Yeah, it's a shame that Straub is such a fan of Kurtz. As for the writing, pretty sure it's mostly meant to be hokey, it's a parody, after all.

Anonymous said...

Wonderella and Scary-Go-Round are pretty fantastic.

Peter said...

actually, you're right; kit n kay boodle IS worse than the office bitch, if only because the art style really really reminds me of a beloved book from my childhood, only now my childhood book has gone all incest naked yiffberg sex gene catlowe cameo ugh ugh ugh ghghh

it's a long time since i read that fucking retarded "boinkberry" storyline and i did not wish to relive the memories by checking it. consider me set straight.

anyway! my contribution to good comicking: minus (whimsical, kind of creepy), anders loves maria (relationship drama), the rack (nerd humour, but comics instead of gaming), raymondo person (sick, but funny)

Anonymous said...

First of all, I wanna say this was a damn good review. Which is great cause after Solomon's last two piss poor reviews I was tempted to give on on YWiB.

Anonymous said...

I don't know, I'm no longer a fan of Gunnerkrigg Court. It started out alright, cute, charming, but now it's trying to have Deep Plot or something and, uh, I'm just not liking it much.

It works better with pseudo-random, pseudo-nonsensical cuteness and adventures.

I loved the first chapter, the surrealness and the giant empty school and of course the esential element of everyone accepting it.

Now all the sci-fi and fantasy is kinf of putting me off it though

Anonymous said...

Who said Perry Bible Fellowship? Cause I just have one thing to say:

It's GOLD, Jerry! GOLD!

Anonymous said...

Rune traverse is right; we need more good webcomic recommendations.

Totally. I've actually found a good number of my favourite comics through recommendations from these comments (ironically, one of those recommendations was for Dresden Codak, which I still love - but let's just ignore that for now).

Once again, a good deal of my favourites have already been mentioned (Gunnerkrigg, PBF, Perfect Stars), but there's a wonderful and pretty unique gag strip I'd like to recommend:-



I found it quite refreshing, to be honest. It's just got this fresh, un-pretentious charm to it. Such that, even when it's not making me laugh, it still makes me smile, you know?

Anonymous said...

Whoa. I think I messed up my HTML tags. Name of the comic was Nobody Scores, address is http://nobodyscores.loosenutstudio.com/

el rallan said...

Well I'll be buggered. I think this is the first time I've seen other people beat me to the punch on recommending so many of my favourite webcomics. especially obscure ones like Platinum Grit, Rice Boy, and Minus

Means I don't have much left to recommend except Nine Planets Without Intelligent Life and the tragically defunct Agnes Quill and A Lesson Is Learned But The Damage Is Irreversible.

And I'm sitting on a bottomless pit of truly abominable webcomics if we ever finish this Your Webcomic Is Nice And You Should Feel Nice tangent.

Christopher Bird said...

Nobody's mentioned We The Robots yet, so let me: it's like a meaner, ruder version of Peanuts (and that's actually not a bad thing) where everybody is a robot.

Also, The Superest, which is not quite a strip per se, but it's funny. Start from the beginning.

Peter said...

further to my earlier comment, would it be too late to add girly to my recommendations? it's one of my favourites (i loved purple pussy back in the day, after all) but it always gets taken for granted, even by me (for shame)

also, john sololameman is actually josh lesnick, because one time lesnick critiqued some webcomics on his livejournal, and nobody other than that wily and dastardly lesnick would ever have the audacity to write bad words on internet for a thing, dhuhuurhhhh

D. Kal said...

Oh, bitch, bitch, bitch.

Anonymous said...

I would like to put this all in a depressing perspective:

While Exiern is making decent (if not copious) amounts of money, the brilliant creator of Achewood, Chris Onstad, now is having to accept donations just to keep the comic running.

There is no god.

Franz Schubert said...

While Exiern is making decent (if not copious) amounts of money, the brilliant creator of Achewood, Chris Onstad, now is having to accept donations just to keep the comic running.

One word: SHITCOCK.

Okay, more words: I consider Achewood to be the reigning champion of comics that get by on offbeat dialogue without needing great art or real punchlines. And yes, I'm comparing it to such internet favorites as Scary-Go-Round and Dinosaur Comics here, that's just my taste (maybe it's a Southern California thing).

To hear that some fantasy cliche transgender wankery is making more money than Onstad, who can actually write... well, it's sad. I'm sad to read that. Even reading SFA didn't damage my faith in humanity so much.

Franz Schubert said...

And I'm sitting on a bottomless pit of truly abominable webcomics if we ever finish this Your Webcomic Is Nice And You Should Feel Nice tangent.

Well, now that I'm feeling angry again... DISH, my good man, DISH.

Wanker G. Spot said...

For fuck's sake, people, quit it with this "losing faith in humanity" bullshit. They're just fucking comics. If a comic can make you lose faith in humanity then you're just looking for an excuse to lose it in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Apparently Wanker G. Spot is unfamiliar with the concept of hyperbole.

Wanker G. Spot said...

Apparently anonymous is unfamiliar with the concept of shut the fuck up.

Franz Schubert said...

Okay, I exaggerate. My faith in humanity's ability to think or act rationally at any large collective level was already pretty well gone before I started reading webcomics.

I'm just a bit surprised, perhaps more so than I should be, at the fact that people can read, for instance, this and this and somehow fail to notice a difference in quality of writing, comedic timing, or even art. And they'll be more likely to donate or buy merchandise from the former than the latter. It annoys me.

Wanker G. Spot said...

All webcomics suck anyway, though. Not most of them, all of them.

Rune Traverse said...

Don't know if anyone's mentioned it yet or not, but I'll add Wayfarer's Moon to the list of good comics. Just found it recently, and there's not much, but it seems pretty good.

Anonymous said...

Another recommendation: Digger by Ursula Vernon.

http://www.graphicsmash.com/comics/digger.php

You unfortunately need to pay to read past the 200th instalment, and it's anthro stuff for those who hate that, but it's a really great fantasy comic nonetheless. Beautiful, inventive, emotional and light-hearted.

Anonymous said...

In case the URL got screwed up, that's:

http://www.graphicsmash.com/comics/
digger.php

Write it together.

Antithesis said...

All webcomics suck anyway, though. Not most of them, all of them.

Come ON, you can troll better than THAT. This is on par with "LOLOL [something the reader is likely to like] SUKKS AND EVERYONE WHO LIKES IT IS A FURFAG"-losers

Wanker G. Spot said...

Prove me wrong, I dare you. Prove a good webcomic exists. And don't even think about trying to use idiotic bullshit like Achewood as proof. Achewood sucks complete arse.

Wanker G. Spot said...

Anyway, comics are a worthless artistic medium. Combine that with the internet and, well...

Malethoth K. said...

Powerup Comics is pretty great imoz.

I just read through Kit N Kay Boodle until about 2006 in the archives, and I confess: I laughed several times. It's just so completely retarded. They've been granted magical yiffing powers by the Gods of Yiff?! There's a Nazi fursecution arc, there's the constant incest and the super joyous orgies... It's so completely absurd and disgusting that it triggered a laugh reflex.

vorzer said...

Of course, the idea of "good" is so subjective that it's painful. Even something that meets all exceptional artistic and literary merits yaddayaddayadda...



Bruno the Bandit
Ballad This one would be so much better if the writer could iron out the handwriting and spelling problems.. oh, hey, another dyslexic!

Anyway, there's also the crowd (including me) that is willing to accept that there are webcomics, and then there are print comics that just wound up on the web first. At least, I don't think I'm the only one... And the "good' versus "bad" print comics debate is a whole different animal.

vorzer said...

Huh. Missed a couple.

http://rabbiencounters.smackjeeves.com
http://smugglingvacation.co.uk

Franz Schubert said...

Oh wow, Ballad is updating again? I'll have to check that out, I thought it was dead. Looked like it was going somewhere interesting.

Sammy B. said...

I don't know, I'm no longer a fan of Gunnerkrigg Court. It started out alright, cute, charming, but now it's trying to have Deep Plot or something and, uh, I'm just not liking it much.

It works better with pseudo-random, pseudo-nonsensical cuteness and adventures.


To be fair, the Deep Plot was planned from the beginning, seeing as it was set off by the events of the very first chapter.

Also, Chapter 15 (a mere two chapters ago) was almost entirely devoted to a trip to the barbershop (staffed by a robot barber), ending with the shocking revelation that fairies are jerks.

The "problem" with GC isn't that it's "abandoning its roots", but that it veers between dark seriousness and cute randomness from chapter to chapter with almost no middle ground. While I definitely see how that could be jarring or off-putting, the inconsistent tone is actually one of the things I like about the comic.

Sammy B. said...

Other good comics that haven't been mentioned yet!

Wondermark

Misunderstandings Between Friends

Dreamleak

No Rest for the Wicked

Hannah said...

Re: Drowemos' trivial freakout, this is the second time I've seen someone on the Internet blame their shitty writing on an English teacher. For fuck's sake, yes, dyslexia is a challenge to overcome and many people don't understand it, but you're a grownup now. If this guy can afford to outsource his artwork, he can afford to hire a damn proofreader for his pathetic whining. Hell, I'll do it for free, just to make sure this guy isn't polluting the Internet with his misspelled tirades.

Anonymous said...

I discovered Exiern through "No Need for Bushido" and have hated both comics ever since. The former for its sheer what-the-fuckery and the latter for having led me to said what-the-fuckery.

Anonymous said...

In today's episode of "Your Fanbase is Bad and You Should Feel Bad"...

I'm not going to say anything about the comic, it's obviously indefensible. What I'm going to say that it would be great if you, just for a change, would direct your criticism at the flaws in the actual comic instead of flaws in the character of your self-formed mental image of the author and/or its readers. This review was one chapter of bashing the comic and about ten chapters of bashing the author and the audience, and it's not exactly the only one written in that form.

Anonymous said...

Eh... You know.. it is not as if you are forced to read these kinds of comics. All you have to do is well... not read them and they wont bother you anymore:)

Anonymous said...

Jesus Christ (PBUH)

I laughed at this the most.

Zachary Cross said...

I cannot even begin to describe how much it burns to gaze upon that horror.

I actually saw Drowemos hanging around The Wotch forums and I never thought he would be anyone else than another Anne-bot ready to serve his she-male goddess. But, no he has his own horrifically terrible comic with which he can make his own profit off of TG fan-wankery. I don't care if he jacked up the art to cover his ass, it STILL sucks because his writing and cliches have still made the comic an abortive mess.

Nice review Ted, and I have nothing but sympathy for you being stuck with all the fetish webcomics.

Anonymous said...

Fuckers. I had managed to forget about Kit N Kay boodle...

In retaliation, take this.

http://rustedtusks.com/slop/

Anonymous said...

And another thing. I've actually got a goddamned learning disability when it comes to spelling, documented and everything. That's why I have a dictionary within easy reach on my desk, and why I type up everything I post on the Internet in Word beforehand so I can spell check it. I've never fucking posted anything that was misspelled in my life, so fuck every moron who hides behind a learning disability to excuse their own lazy ass.

Anonymous said...

Regarding one of his petty tales, he was kind enough to list "comics" that linked to his own travesty...

http://www.sailorsun.com/

Do it for great justice.

Alisa said...

Oh wow this is awesome, I read Platinum Grit a long long time ago and I never bookmarked it, and of course forgot the name, but I loved the characters and the story. I've been wondering forever what it was called. Sweet, now I have a link again.

THANKS INTERWEBS!

el rallan said...

I'm not going to say anything about the comic, it's obviously indefensible. What I'm going to say that it would be great if you, just for a change, would direct your criticism at the flaws in the actual comic instead of flaws in the character of your self-formed mental image of the author and/or its readers. This review was one chapter of bashing the comic and about ten chapters of bashing the author and the audience, and it's not exactly the only one written in that form.

Balls. The best thing (the only good thing) about horrible webcomics is the retarded, self-absorbed no-talent hacks who write them and the fat broken weeaboos and furries who hang around stroking the authors' cocks. They're where the lulz are. They're what elevate a bad webcomic from merely sucking to being worth an entry in Portal Of Evil or Encyclopedia Dramatica. They're the only reason people like JDR (to pick the definitive example) are so entertaining to watch.

Anonymous said...

I don't get it? You motherfuckers hate the comic... then don't read it.

Anonymous said...

So, is that bingo?

Franz Schubert said...

The internet exists only to torture me.

Malethoth K. said...

I can't wait for cameos in that support group from characters from The Wotch, Misfile, and all sorts of other abominations.

Sammy B. said...

I don't get it? You crybabies hate the review blog... then don't read it.

Geoduck said...

I certainly won't defend Exiern as a whole, but one small nitpick: the monster didn't kill Denver's sister, that was his sister. She mutated or whatever, and the same thing's going to happen to Denver, which explains his crazed outbursts, and why the Evil Wizard nicknamed him "Tadpole." This is what bugs me about Exiern, far more than the sex-switching fetish: the author actually has a couple of interesting ideas and the beginnings of a sense of humor, but they're so buried under all the crap they're almost invisible.

And for anyone with genuine spelling problems, check out the latest version of Firefox; it comes with a built-in spell-checker.

Anonymous said...

This douche apparently is taking leaves out of the book of Robert A. Tangents Howard of Tangents by Robert A. Howard. Seems that he sucked his way into the Wotch spinoff comic "Cheer." Link. Shameless.

Anonymous said...

Oh Drowemos, being somewhat of a long time member of the mind numbing Wotch forums you should know The Wotch cares nothing for it's members, at least those who do not suck at up every possible opportunity that is, or donate.

The Wotch has deep seated clique mentality which shuns newcomers and critiques them with an unforgiving eye until they as a whole deem them worthy to join of the ranks of Wotchie circle jerking.

The Wotch comprises itself of psudo-intellectuals, and non-intellectuals, the latter being treated with a sort of mild neglect from the veteran members almost wholly comprised of the former. Guess which you are, Drow my boy.

The fact that it tears you up inside to be rejected by people who are social rejects themselves is a sad sad sight.

Lastly, choke on the discharge of a hairy donkey cock you money grubbing piece of human trash. I thought the Wotch's finacial whoring was bad, you take the gender confused cake, my friend.

Chris said...

This might have been a good article if your links went to pages that matched your insults. if you are going to flame someone, match up your links.

Anonymous said...

Ugh, thank you for FINALLY tearing the TG comics a new one! That bunch of fanboys (who wish they were fangirls) are completely perverted, and thank you for mentioning The Wotch, quite possibly the sickest pile of wank material on the net.

And do us all a favor, please please please review Venus Envy soon.

The Wotch's creators LOVE Venus Envy, so of course you know it's terrible from the start, and it goes downhill from there. It's basically just the self-righteous ranting and preaching of yet another gender-confused social reject about how mistreated he is. All it does is hammer you over the head with how its poor unfortunate Gary-Stu-who-wants-to-be-Mary-Sue is oppressed. Oh, and it's another animu-wannabe "style" too. PLEASE rip it to shreds.

Anonymous said...

John Solomon is Charlie Brooker.

Anonymous said...

"The Wotch's creators LOVE Venus Envy, so of course you know it's terrible from the start, and it goes downhill from there. It's basically just the self-righteous ranting and preaching of yet another gender-confused social reject about how mistreated he is. All it does is hammer you over the head with how its poor unfortunate Gary-Stu-who-wants-to-be-Mary-Sue is oppressed. Oh, and it's another animu-wannabe "style" too. PLEASE rip it to shreds."

Sounds like you're ripping on transsexuals to me, are you an intolerant bastard, or did you fail to actually read the site?

On a different note I do agree that the story is not great by any means and I think the author lost her original purpose which was just to make a few jokes while improving her art for school, that was the reason I read it cause I like to see an artist improve upon their talent also the fact that I could relate to tiny pieces of the story. On the other hand yes it is another cliched story that makes me sad that another transsexual wrote it.

One other thing i'd like to mention is that their are plenty of transsexuals or transgendered people who hate most TG comics with a burning red hot passion that comes from the lowest depths of the ninth circle of hell.

Anonymous said...

//The Wotch has deep seated clique mentality which shuns newcomers and critiques them with an unforgiving eye until they as a whole deem them worthy to join of the ranks of Wotchie circle jerking.//


Yeah, there is truth behind that regrettably. I have seen more than my far share. There are some good formers out there, but some of the older ones can be complete asses.